Ep. 03: Moonbots, Velcro, and hoverboards
Ep. 1532: President Obamas on Foursquare
Crave Extra welcomes Bonnie Cha! She and Eric Franklin discuss all things Windows Phone 7.
Its Rafe and Molly on the show today, and it kind of turned into a blur of Apple-related frustrations. But hey, our opinions might not matter in the least: iPad 3G arrives today in all its closed-off glory, while possible competitor tablets from Microsoft and HP are dropping like flies. Plus, Apple now owns a powerful new collection of multitouch gestures. But dammit, they killed Lala.com, and we just cannot truck with that kind of behavior (iTunes.com? Hello?). --Molly
Buzz Out Loud: Googles Eric Schmidt is out and CNET New York is in
Today we are joined by Rafe Needleman of Reporters Roundtable and Wilson Tang from The 404 to break down Microsofts tablet strategy, what a $539 Xoom means for the iPad 2, and all the dirty things you can do with Opera. Oh, and we found a spot for our moon base!
Why chase the iPad?
Ep. 1218: Brace yourself, Apple ns
This week, Donalds back in the studio, joined by Eric Franklin and Dong Ngo from CNET Labs. We ponder Japans plans to turn the moon into a playground for robots, and tackle OLED displays that roll and vanish. Dong drops some knowledge on recent hard drive innovations and a waterproof case for his Flip Ultra HD. The iPad meets Velcro. And the hoverboard makes a comeback (kinda).,vancouver film school Ep 1419 iPad 1 plus iPad 2 does not equal iPad 3.
Reporters Roundtable: Can anyone top the iPad? AnandTech, CNET experts debate.
Its not your regular Buzz Out loud today. From New York City, Wilson G. Tang, Jeff Bakalar, Dan Ackerman and Rex Brian (AKA Scott Stein) take over, and needless to say its a very different BOL. In this topsy-turvy world, Googles Dr. Eric Schmidt is forced out as CEO. HP joins the fray by rearranging its board of directors with four new members, including former California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman. Verizon files suit against the FCC for rules they proposed, and no, the iPad 2 wont be getting the Retina Display--much to our dismay.
Barack, Do you really want everyone to know where you are? In the Googorola aftermath, Microsoft was reportedly one of the comapnies in negotiations with Motorola. And the best way to kill an iPad 3 rumor, tanner lund wrestling Townsend wrestling takes 2 titles in Cascade is to squash it with another rumor that you made up. Plus, Wilson Tang of the 404 joins us in studio.
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Created: 02/28/2011 On todays show, were joined by Eric Franklin of the Crave podcast and Wilson Tang from the 404 for what turns out to be a much more reasonable and serious discussion than you might expect. Short version: whats going to happen to the Android tablets now that iPad 2 is out, and will there be an iPad 3? Also, Verizon ends iPhone unlimited data plan and security woes strike the Android platform. Plus: UFOs! --Molly
Steam arrives for the Mac, and an iPad Wi-Fi fix is on the way, school281.typepad.com as is a Google tablet. Plus, Androids gonna get you a free beer.
Today is iPad 2 launch day, so were talking about the tablet industry. Is Apples tablet platform unstoppable? Will developers give it up for Android? Does Microsoft still have a shot? And what about HP and RIM? Watch the discussion.
Apple sues Samsung, Samsung sues Apple, the Army uses Android in the battle field, and we get a tour of the latest round of Android Tablets. Join Justin Eckhouse and guest hosts Eric Franklin and JT Tabencki as they dive into the world of Android.
Ep. 1158: Android has been sporked
Today is Thursday -- theres plenty of them. -- Im Wilson tang I am Molly -- welcome a buzz out loud in a podcast to indiscriminately at -- episode in nineteen. And I know you might be feeling like either you just one video lottery complete. For a port -- via -- -- on on. -- Youve got a little bit with -- that read time mysteriously appeared today. He got called -- suddenly to go and do an interview in LA actually with one of our south by southwest -- -- live show guests. Which I think were now prepared to reveal because. Like a week away -- So yes CBSs premiering we did mention is that theyre gonna be premiering or at least announcing the premiere of their new show chaos. That the buzz out -- -- -- live -- that were gonna have. Talk -- style you know -- -- Talked about -- -- catch more on stage. We now can officially announced the of the -- -- people on the Internet I think I show -- you catch more and Eric Franklin Eric. And police today go ahead. 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Yet to meet progress there and intact adding -- there now I havent you and other -- That is it thats pretty good this show lineup for the month how loud. Epic. Epic -- police that your Okaloosa. At south by southwest. Out of the -- but they are. Youre about if it becomes sent in and take them -- and yet none of that and thats the plan right now. Other -- -- it up like a really long explanation or rational. Is that like -- That -- show you -- I was like this the most secret and ever. -- Brian -- well heres our awesome to explain why its well done but I am excited because we have -- thing in an airplane and burst ever that I dealt with immediately -- -- out of here and theyll let them add data at home -- -- -- -- Think how you didnt know Im Im Im Im Im. Well welcome back. To the show and -- and thanks for joining us. And nonetheless Amazon -- -- we did it from New York I think we had to take over -- on Friday and that was. But some big shoes to fill -- data. And who evidently well I its -- A potential New York extra extra. Whos that sitting -- -- have to read so much you have to know these and that -- lot of work. The -- that the lot of work. Well actually this -- they show it really easy because the whole first block and now we have not management at UT at the time you know what what what happened. They completely got about net neutrality have been -- deep commitment and its pretty. And hired. You Eric has recently it like started taking over them to work in and tablet coming out of Apple -- and ODonnell with that stuff lately -- now you like being in house expert. -- -- -- -- -- Yet it still learning a lot. The whats your big tape from yesterday you know into the room what are the -- -- an iPad you. I feel like. I feel -- -- And I feel like what theyve done -- -- told the other. Tablet vendors. Look we -- here to compete were here to win and were not -- -- go anywhere and and pretty. CEO of any kind of Motorola or LG or any of the -- tablet HP whoever in the big tablet vendors coming -- some. If if any of them are surprised. Apple Neil came out with two dual cameras can pass a process that came out -- the inner form -- I think he stepped out. Really because theres about how could be spotlighted is how can you be taken aback by -- had to know this was coming. I feel like -- is saying look were here to win and were not given and a and look were going to be mainstream you guys gonna theyre gonna get to -- over the scripts. Thats thats my take away. And I I agree. For the most but I also think that it was really telling that they brought Steve Jobs out whos supposedly on medical leave. Now like being on stage. In doing a giant presentation like that. Does takes quite a bit of energy you know and I think that that for then they did the calculation net. It right now is really important in -- tablet market. If they -- if they can win the tablet market for the next year to theyve got it locked down for a good while they will have -- -- IPod win slash windows monopoly that Microsoft and -- Apple -- before. Like this is the moment now if enjoy cant really compete in the next year to I dont think -- -- knocking -- I dont think theyre gonna compete. -- -- This is just made their -- and lock it up in just gonna take too much for people to want to switch or have an app developers -- answers yes. I agree. Yeah -- -- -- okay -- -- is no well yes and now I mean I do think in a long term we will see of -- you know monopolies never. -- -- -- -- the short -- the short response to that is. That you know that bigger they are the heart of -- no monopoly ever lasts forever there is always. Competitive landscape somehow. And I do think you know weve seen that in the phone market it look like the iPhone would be the absolute runaways mark on it in with it. The Apple OS was terrifying days you know terrifying. Rim terrifying Nokia and -- came Android -- it is now that the dominant Smartphone OS. And and I think it -- competitive market is continuing in an Android for tablets date is the same rate they can still work. On that developer base theres still that potential out there. But I agree with you that in the short term Android tablets are in a lot of trouble unless they get a lot cheaper. Mary very st and frankly honeycomb does have to get easier -- It does it is gonna go numb. ID using -- come out a lot of I handle you know is looking forward -- -- -- on the thought it was going to be like. Much more r. And they dont think I dont feel like they really did that -- B. It made it premiered in May from the navigation is more streamlined. But at the end of the day I feel like its still too complex for for -- Joe six pack two you know. Yeah I feel like for the mainstream user its still a little too. Just too complex and you know thats thats what I mean by Apples gonna be mainstream these other vendors for using. You know Android honeycomb or whatever. They dont have that kind of I must say they dont have -- kind of appeal to the mainstream that Apple its. I think the analogy between tablets and Smartphones. Is not as an appropriate as. Windows. Operating systems vs Mac operating system the young people love. Mac OS. But a lot of people have to use windows for work and in this net because the applications themselves -- Were originally built for windows and it just cost too much money to change that sort of infrastructure. -- and it can work for better or work I mean Im sorry like eBay its not like youre reinforce these windows and -- -- -- sucking down fish oil if it works better or were sure that and my opinion it does like there are actually people who prefer windows to the Mac operating system I am one of them. I dont find that OS particularly easier to use I agree I do find IOS easier to use than -- com and -- -- as soon as -- you know its not as r along. But I think it certainly can be and I think people will. Eventually start to make it sort of competitive decisions when all of the competition exists and is relatively equal right now youve got one who is so I mean. You know -- iPad two is a mature. Run in a landscape where nobody else has really -- gone off the ground. And yeah thats what theyre really doing here with the device and think that theyre just extending their lead Berkshire. Now -- accurate theres something -- -- but if they if they locked in the ecosystem. I think -- become that the incentives are all wrong if Im a software developer. We are you know yesterday one of the big pieces of news I think was the two billion dollars that they paid out to developers. Vs the I think the last figure -- for -- marketplace is about a hundred million. Last year. It you wanna you know it as a developer youre money and youre taking -- money -- part of the year putting your by the other party should be reinvesting your business. And it -- it doesnt make much business sense to invest in a platform where youre not gonna make any money. I think thats the biggest part of the momentum that they have its thats -- much of devices its the entire ecosystem behind it and it becomes even more difficult. -- is a phone because youre actually whining. Applications business is. Actually run their business with -- OS on the iPad. Doctors are using the iPad in the in the surgery room and -- thats gonna be something huge. And the biggest this point with Android is that they really havent come down. Or given the consumer reason. To not buy an iPad thats the biggest thing they havent giving consumers a reason not to buy an iPad. The price is certainly not it is certainly too high I think especially with the iPad -- still being on film I think theyre gonna keep it on sale. -- a long time I think that its gonna be. The similar -- IPhone 3GS. -- iPhone four. And a 400 dollar tablet that works almost as well as the iPad too I think is a huge selling point. Am -- at. It so one of the announcements that came out as a result of yesterday was that there is indeed the iPad priced at the original iPad is now -- sell for as low as 349. Its actually 350 -- is that he may -- -- rightly get an iPad for three empathy but if you dont care about -- time I mean it really has to mediate the biggest differentiator like my a lot of consumers are not gonna notice the -- difference if -- or care about it as if theyre just using delicate but camera announces it if you dont care about cetime. And thats -- the screen minister deal in the tech world right now like every bit deeper reaper or even 399 will officially how many people can actually use video comes -- like mainstream people like me she uses would actually. Care about video conferencing or have. Notes have a partner with another iPad to be really use it -- And any other thing and Apples doing is that theyre actually refunding the difference. If you just lie if hed just bought -- -- patent. Only to find out that the iPad is now available and its down -- 399 Apple will actually refund the difference what does that I just Allegheny timeframe with the windows and usually its about thirty days. Something so he bought it maybe within the last thirty days and arent there arent a ton of details about its like coming out of the UK right now but. Yet that that to me is -- Hughes. -- -- -- and I dont like. You know how how well like garageband and editing -- movie works on original. If that it performs well and that it is the performance. Yeah I think not got -- regulars and that if you wanna do that I really think if you wanna do those things he got an iPad I dont think iPad can or. Just in I mean again I dont know -- statement -- if youre gonna use some kind of do you really -- -- -- -- The -- editor. Will be one -- Full fledged computers. -- -- -- Mean totally but -- you know any intensive application the united going to be doing 3-D modeling with it. I yet he is on not yet I think in the next year to most people -- well have the I think the thinking is keeping their. IPad in their. Backpack and then you know they have a jam session on what -- -- -- -- you dont have to worry about carrying your laptop around yeah yeah yeah and the united theres. If peoples I have the impression was that -- -- -- that college campuses only music. All do that and let the chat -- of fourteen. I that -- -- run windows fourteen days that print kiddies or educational and a small number of people that theyre gonna have to -- -- -- but sentiment. -- well I dont yet know about gazelle dot com its a site that does. Technology buybacks and recycling -- you have old gadgets they dont -- any day. You go to -- you type in what you had to really equal actually like and how to get them a little secret they dont want them to get overwhelmed right button and because the more of a certain device they have the lower the prices are which -- get -- in a minute. But so you go there and you tell them what you have and what condition and is maybe if they make you an offer if you accept it you get a shipping label and you just -- -- your thing Nathan knew the money in an interview of the -- selling something. You know its -- insulin insulin in the Apple. So that they resell that stuff on eBay or if its not re -- they recycle -- So they have put out there -- in the data business that they basically came out yesterday and then. Yet turned out a lot of people are trying to sell us their original iPad so that they can have pinch media view is that in the -- After the new -- he was announced yesterday get help on -- 2000. -- while. In an hour thats amazing it compares to the -- phones that they bought during the entire earth today after the -- on -- was announced last summer. -- the beginning of the day. Like before the gold rush you could get three -- they get really good prices -- The more than gold restaurant for the new announcement you can get 375 bucks for your sixteen gig with Wi-Fi. -- 95 for your 64 gig with Wi-Fi plus three G. Now those prices are down tune youll get 300 dollars for years fifteen Gateway but not bad. Theyre really pretty decent return like considering that you know the usual resell value for gadget. And 510 for the 64 gig like that authorities. Amazing how these days I think Apples -- some people that they need this you know what you know Molly I referred to as early as -- a luxury item in those like. Its its not something youd need and if you have left a phone that does most of what the iPad doesnt have a smart phone. Why do you need this other thing to carry around with expression get a Smartphone and a laptop yeah yeah how they convince silly people that look you fifteen million million of you actually meet this. -- really interesting like I. I think the more you the -- you -- -- the more you you either -- use or are you really dont need are very -- -- indicated totally needs. And maybe you wanna take your kid on an airplane you need to adapt iPad okay so yeah that you -- yeah like it -- -- it. You valuable experiences you have a kid and he uses that iPad right in on the user do you think theyve grown up now do you think that thats going to replace. Personal computers for him you think that this generation. You know when they when he plays with iPad he pleasing gamers dont like that things happen on screen he touches it right yeah so then later when you put a controller in his hand. If -- what does this -- a screen. -- -- -- and his growing up on the iPad and connect. I mean you look at my laptop now like when -- you know on the laptop -- -- he -- on the screen right and that mouse thing is like. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- old person thing that Im using. I think for children anyway of the biggest it being that the iPad does is when you touch something on screen it reacts instantly via whereas -- -- the malice or even a keyboard or some sort of controller. They have to learn the idea that -- Affecting one thing. That affects something else -- and thats -- thats a cognitive leap that. You action be quite a bit older nor understand slick little kids and babies love touching because it reacts immediately have on screen immediately understand that grant. Although I still right -- I think the same reason it. I feel -- the iPad ultimately as well as the -- I wont grow up on it completely which is like you cant get a lot of -- that might eventually is gonna water at a month. His way to clear Ill share analysts voice recognition and maybe -- in Google -- damn good voice recognition and unless -- all the way there the input. -- it still is not sure it might you know film. In final point that this is going to evolve over the next few years and weve weve come a long ways since 07 when you -- -- iphones and it has become. Like we have a giant iPhone that does even more than -- original iPhone. In just four years. Yeah and as you know its only gonna evolve continually collect -- ice hit -- replacing the television and computer. Am I -- I think -- television replacement theyre gonna watch your -- on merit. The -- -- is indeed books though I I just imagine twenty years from now. Were gonna think that its but its cruelty to get children -- around 2030 pounds of books yeah I mean it. So lets hope for its -- I mean theres story about kids getting you know back having back problems -- joint problems. Now I mean absolutely -- -- yet it didnt visit. It get you know -- -- larger -- and this is. Unquestionably. We are in the evolution phase the post PC paid -- Steve Jobs and document that was our next big big topic at CES was after the computer teacher edit it where were definitely in that pays and some things are still shaking out I mean we may find. I think long term were gonna find that apps are a stopgap. -- and that -- that developer support you know it that the idea of tying content -- specifically to devices hitting an improved economically feasible he shouldnt have to have an vancouver film school Ep 1419 iPad 1 plus iPad 2 does not equal iPad 3army of developers behind you a lot -- ir and so I I suspect that we those issues will shake out html -- terrible lot of the app the developer army problem. And that we are solving -- what is the right form ctor is it in ct keyboard lets device with -- Who -- -- -- I I I think the iPad and other tablets like this not necessary being an evolution. The PC I dont think of it being as post PC. I think of it as 2.0. Like everywhere that you have . Thats where your tablet is really gonna come into play in -- can replace that. I think thats where. The cognitive -- that were all that we all need to make as we when we talked about the iPad although it only has one gigahertz and only has 256 megabytes of ram. That doesnt matter. On because its not meant to replace -- computer computer is a very powerful machine that can do a lot of great things. But you dont necessarily need all that just like you dont need -- a pickup truck with. 300 horsepower. Sometimes academies -- on top of. Right now I agree on that particular point -- it that it. Is more easily a replacement for of what media still -- like we said beginning theres still pushing these. How IA. I processing apps to the iPad is still putting I -- its opening garageband is so blatant. You infinity blade these these really awesome looking gains on my idea and it infinity blade production by and the -- that it actually comes at the time. -- Im not gonna fire them with me and -- Guess what I feel like yes it. I think it Wilson makes a really good point but I also think that there they are at least hedging their bets. By putting this. By putting more robust apps on -- machine. In other iPad you related news that Apple is and this is good news for those of you -- were not excited about standing in line outside the Apple Store. Theyre continuing their new trend of like selling all I devices -- the -- -- -- in everywhere else. It will be available at best buy. Sams Club and Wal-Mart at watch thats crazy so I dont edit any line at the Apple story fifth and final Wal-Mart that you dont need these moves -- Zune and some better. Its and -- also interesting story business insider was speculating as was Apple insider dot com. That Apple may have killed off all of the ball iPad three rumors without one -- -- Saying -- 2011 with a year of. -- -- I dont -- And I think Elliott talked up the Internet right over the -- yeah exam before yesterdays announcement I was very much in in line with the idea that theyre gonna release -- third -- in the ll. But I think that theyre really it all really depends on how well -- cells in the next couple months. They dont -- they have a real reason to release an iPad three if theres still have 95% of the market -- I think that theyre prepping an iPad three I think theyre anticipating. That all this competition is gonna come out in the spring ll and summer and if the Motorola -- is any indication of where it. And whats gonna be over the next year they may not need to do until next year human I need to release one but I think that the whole reason -- they might even do it is because. You know for a lot of people the iPad three may replace their computer they dont need all that processing power. And it might follow -- more. Traditional. Apple PC update schedule where they have like a big release in the ll. And then a minor update in the spring thats sort of makes more sense from. Long term perspective. But if they are still 95% of the market by September. I think there might be a good I think theres a 50% chance -- iPad three might not happen. And that is decent -- -- -- I can happen I actually think like. You really thinks and what does that rumor this very short release wind up with them even shorter than usual for occasionally deal with September release is that what we can. Yet and these are not very hard upgrades to accomplish -- -- like we talked about how there was already kind of a slot for a camera built into the iPad. Its a it is basically a redesign a ster processor and a camera at its heart theres not a lot going on machines -- that not a revolutionary leap. And I think that they are working on more I almost feel like if anything. They may have. Pushed this out earlier than anticipated. To counter the threat of all of the upcoming iPad tablet there Android tablet because. There was so much -- about him theres been so much buzz about all of the new tablet and honestly I still think that HP slate. Could prove to be the one to the -- touchpad the other touch pad. I think that webos is gonna be is going to be the one that -- -- I know -- never got Alitalia and that the one where I hope that -- -- -- updates via theyre just brightened check to developers you know I dont know so much about the tab. With but I think that their biggest competitive advantage is that each -- is the biggest OEM in the in the world. Yeah and if they can throw webos on top of all the computers that they sell. Thats where they -- really have a chance to break into the market. Like the whole idea of on the -- by an HP computer. By deult they are you have one out of every five. Computer sales at least in the US -- actually a. Another -- -- -- -- -- than if they do it you know people are comfortable with them to fill -- -- the laughter but I think. I do think that this was Apples -- iPad and that theres a chance for Ive read actually in our -- -- that are notorious tipster was saying that they might do an iPad pro. -- around September that it could potentially be like in different kind of a -- Still agreement for you know its to do more and more like okay well thats features -- its like what what would. The iPad three look like how the different compared to what would it too. That the iPad team doesnt. Home made energy unicorn -- -- The biggest thing everybodys been threatened display thats what they really very little -- any higher res display right like okay. Engineering and no it seems like enemy the you know they get it they can re engineer me thinner and lighter I would appreciate it but -- thats not like that they gonna change and yet but they put a retina display on indeed they put a different from the camera -- -- like mat on this thing in the back what only takes video or something different gallery that EA has -- And -- what could happen there yeah -- right. There -- -- they would -- -- -- because to be honest if you going to be using a device like that youre really youre not gonna be holding not to take high quality pictures of anybody right you Im radio -- -- -- to yourself in the best. -- but even though like no matter how you wanna do it a camera things were also vulnerable. -- the -- if you surprised I hadnt really thought system and I think they wanna do that intimately thats true. -- -- about that and the whole SD card game with in camera -- pages on your own camera. And beanie but it really easily get and put them to the iPad and that goes a -- theres -- SD card reader. I dont think that the bird had never gonna happen that they are some kind of partner Steve -- I agree but idea hire them. Then the last -- -- -- before we go to our break is that Verizon is ending. The iPhone unlimited data plan as soon as this summer that. Verizon Wireless CEO friend channel island to -- ranch. The head. Her ce and that idea now is indeed. What I changes they -- Pennsylvania. -- doesnt. They said to be a thirty dollar unlimited data service is not a long term solution and that they will stop they had -- -- -- offering planned brand now I think it will be probably around summer with. Conveniently is about the time were expecting iPhone pocket. Though yeah its sorry if he -- got a new Verizon contract if youre so excited right there you know and the content and knife. -- and theyre gonna let out people who already maybe they have money to burn. Upgrade to the iPhone five and maybe be grandthered into their existing data plan thats a thats a question but the whole. Getting rid of unlimited data plans thats everybodys gonna do that nobodys gonna offer unlimited data. Unless youre -- no lower tier. Has the major carriers have to figure out a way to. Put an incentive for people to not download and BitTorrent on their networks and thats. The easiest way to do that is with tiered pricing. And -- I think sprint and T-Mobile might be the only people left who will continue to do that. But if people realize you know if it hackers are people who are more on. Leading edge of tech realizing hey I can bit -- on sprint that may and very quickly via. Well see him and certainly that has been there has been their argument which is that they dont have the network to support it although I. Maintain that that is still such a small number of users that. I dont -- -- -- -- I would much rather see. I mean I I think metered bandwidth on the wireless network -- is -- kind of an animation killer because wireless broadband is. Is the next. Battleground in terms of development so it it unfortunately were seeing the data availability move and on the opposite curve as the user. User you know were wanting to consume video on devices just in time and there when theyre trying to limit the amount because I dont of the spectrum -- -- My I would disagree and in as much that like spectrum it is limited to limited resource and economics says that the best way. To. I guess the split up limited resources to put a price onto it where is like going to someones house you can run another cable. Essentially you can get a limited bandwidth as long as youre willing to pay for someone to run the cable -- the end of the day theres only so many. Frequencies in megahertz and -- that we can use at this moment and I think that pricing it you know pricing yet per megabyte is a good thing for the industry at least when it comes to wireless because it. Its -- its a limited resource. I Hollywood has exploded they -- -- a lot I AM an artificially limited resources they are not investing in infrastructure to the extent that they could be I agree that it is limited but I dont think -- limited -- -- an out to be and I think that. The only reason we have the robust and unbelievable like Internet infrastructure that we have now is because the demand for. The ability to create. Innovative applications that website -- -- used. The used drove the investment. And are trying to shut down the use before it even has a chance to start influencing the investment. I totally agree when it comes to land base but it. I dont know you could somebody can do the math and figure out what is the maximum number of bits you can transmit. And that at -- -- -- and -- physics. And theres probably more people in a given area who can use that. And then there is better there are better ways to invest in technology theres theres theres two G vs three G like theyve started throttling. Back when they had you know two G or whatever to G was called three G may have never been developed like you can always come up with a way to. To make more and make more -- make more space. There are ways there are ways to improve that infrastructure their own and to make that transmission ster and it Wiis and if we let him say -- -- like. Hes good -- were not able to consume that much more -- doubled and so much for mobile streaming video like theyre a lot of people right now. Who are streaming our show live on their Android devices -- their iPhone. And Ive been if we -- like -- havent -- for that then theres no reason to ever developed. IG or really even roll out significant amounts of what I mean -- you know it becomes this cat and mouse game where eventually we dont innovate. I would I mean anywhere in here -- -- yet. Well I I dont know I dont know what the limits of the actual physical amount of spectrum is available. I think that competition does take care of a lot of that in the wireless market. But I also think that what I knew it depends on the range now. -- you know I think a lot of municipalities. Should and a lot of copy should get into the idea of setting up hot spots on buses. In businesses that in any place where people might actually realistically be consuming. That kind of thing but if youre if youre talking about ranges. -- hundred meters of 200 meters. I think theres a physical amount. Of bandwidth that can they can pass through. Now you -- youre monitoring right now -- New -- when youre right we may not be close to the maximum amount of data that can be shoved. Through the air in a reliable way. I and I think we can reach -- definitely continue to invest in and I dont think that that we should. We -- we should be investing in policies. Right now anyway dep will prevent users from. Using more more bandwidth but in the near future Im talking in the next two or three years. If five people were ten people or twenty people start using Hulu and I cant make a phone call thats really gonna bother me. The same streams now the -- data delivery verses boy I mean I think theyre there are ways to. Prioritize voice packets you know I mean thats with the network management problem thats not thats not a band with infrastructure issue. Theyre -- then granted we talk about this mini I know exactly -- given -- You couldnt you know that at -- -- -- lets take a quick break. And who didnt. When we come out were gonna talk about more waves that Microsoft is -- that can -- Hello and Blackberry messenger going places you never wouldve thought that if welcome back to buzz out loud and Hollywood joined by Eric Franklin -- the great podcast and -- newest tablet reviewer here at CNET. -- and in the plural or -- and -- Rate for October show and and in. Like Superman Spiderman. And -- the American Batman had told Iraqis get myself. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And you need to the united Japanese twins earlier -- would be but I thought a black. And I cant -- And is definitely wrong. Ive been done in a technology news that men OK the get a big amazing tablet saying yeah it really means Android tablet adamant he has. Yet -- and and -- werent the only one and then. The -- that you have might not gonna demo windows eight tablet in June. After the iPad username and -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You have news that Microsoft has announced general availability of the final version of its windows embedded compact seven operating system code named its a lot and. Something amber Apple. And that is apparent the bird. Bullet. But although. Cars. And radar guns and Ridder. -- other things is watching death yes though we note that land line. -- -- tablet and there instantly lightweight what now. Important and as a great way in the chapter and put -- dear Microsoft states are . Love Apple. Her. You know like I actually think that this is where like Angelina really can keep -- The and -- but. Is it. Using enjoy it all these other devices that Microsoft is trying. To get them they can now you have to pay Microsoft for that for that -- privileged yet why does he get it for free from my Google. At a hearing these that is I picked Im -- at the time I heard good looks right now. I think that its still not enough so -- the. Especially that I dont like my finger -- an abstract yeah I mean there hasnt announced that all my Gaza giving my card. There is actually from the Android world you know Android Google has pulled 21 app from the Android market apparently because there -- -- -- malware care. According to Google apps are in -- malware aimed at getting root access to your device. Gathering a wide range of available data and downloading more code dead -- now. And then and we talked a lot about security can be -- -- and -- battleground on mobile devices. Images. -- that ever happened on the App Store the Apple App Store and -- hold. I think theyve pulled out then they pull that iPhone security terrorist security and -- The -- acting yet there was one. Apple just if it does a much better job of policing their store than Google does it and its for philosophical reasons but I think this one of the big things. That having a closed marketplace might actually be a good thing for the consumer. The the other thing that sort of bothers me about this is that theres still investigating. Google still investigating. The company in the software but they havent killed the app on peoples phones theyve removed from the market place them. But if you download if you want an unfortunate he -- download this its still on your phone and its still. Taking all your personal information and whatever stuff and its it its doing. -- remote killing apps -- is a big deal I mean people dont like it it makes some people. We aired on in Id like you gotta be really share of the men in the contact Emily wasnt violent it. It is suspected theyre not bigger right. They suspect it but thats the whole idea of its -- If you went into a Wal-Mart -- you bought something from there that I dont know if youve bought chicken that Salmonella you would get angry. Wal-Mart dot com -- -- and take it away and you would never expect them I would hope that they would. You know I would hope that -- -- one really what you what Wal-Mart coming to -- and taken -- not take it from you but I mean at least message you know I mean if you know that what theyre doing yet message. In a news release now Im sure that their messaging users I dont -- we have that many emails -- I dont know specifically but I think it. But theres a big difference between them sending an email that like if you download the -- You wanna uninstall it and them knocking on your door and coming in thinking for you -- in -- a and a pretty pretty -- I just in my fridge from any -- recorded -- actress if they want to remove it from the store and they banned the publisher are ready. Why not kick it off peoples phones. In the -- if someone -- to make a purchase on Amazon.com. And now that theyre their credit card number. Is didnt -- to hackers or criminals -- -- -- whos ult is is that Googles is that the users. President expressed an interest that -- those tech. In ct that they handled it lets lets move onto that -- -- Do that. -- who apparently an -- AM right now is theres apparently Blackberry messenger will launch -- line. Android and Iowa that the game news that -- and if they but it isnt pretty big deal -- -- of people who use Blackberry messenger. Correcting loved it is that was a big deal because everyone is like whose uses evangelists -- so much its real time messaging that you dont have to -- text messaging fees on boat like texting back and it comes to -- dont -- you can use like -- -- Yahoo! on your content -- -- out there pretty -- a lot of time my mind. -- sign you out a year period. In another session on your PC on something else on though. Exactly so the idea of just like youd be real time messaging and apparently Blackberry messenger is an instant notification blanket -- How people get retired and now all -- Android and iPhone users and again with partners he. The aura compatible although it solves a computer -- question. Like theyre -- weeks -- somebody. Is likely to be -- long time and -- -- on an island and what to do. -- I thought I mean I think the great thing by. Isnt that one and Blackberry sort of competitive advantage white and blue what wolves what was the thinking behind. -- -- -- -- to get more money when I mean is it free. While it makes the Blackberry. Platform that much more relevant for the people who have it if everybody can communicate with Blackberry -- -- I get it against their ideas -- we dont wanna be an island that no one else can talk to -- we -- news -- and its like if your business is getting a Blackberry world and everyone in the world -- -- premise is that much more reason to -- Blackberry and the real question is like people that use Blackberry messenger -- gonna -- slum it with Android wireless users -- how to stop it -- -- -- -- the quick -- -- -- the -- and figure that. Word press that -- suffers -- the largest is apparently undergoing right now its largest ever denial of service attack. That you have a word press log -- its not working. That is apparently why theyre being targeted by an extremely large media attack. Which is affecting basic multiple digging -- Gigabit per second and ten million packet of -- bird -- -- -- didnt -- like black. Yet not yet and probably -- -- Mallon -- magnet than those those that is in May have been politically motivated against one of our non English blogs. And the largest in their six year history. A movement and -- -- The Blackberry Playbook is gonna launch on April 10 finally official at. Its less beneficial it wasnt released it knowing about the weve been told -- -- -- report. But thats -- we hear. So r -- -- the pain and -- Blackberry though it is throwing. Some stones over -- -- and saying that the year ago. HP is saying and the Blackberry Playbook imitates webos. Right and -- thing thats really do they -- and blend them they get paid for doing that day. It kinda like actually when we looked at it onstage at the Catholic Emily staying from -- -- my house. Button and then the media and in -- thing and have them uncanny similarity -- I would say India from the -- Late at night helping anybody. And finally Microsoft finally has resumed. Windows phone seven update to Samsung bounds when it Atlantic. I was -- This is from like two weeks ago that the windows phone seven update roll -- was breaking a small number of -- Its gotten all these problems in the -- -- suspended the active were gonna get it -- -- -- -- in the update and I kind of cant believe that it took. -- only to -- -- inherits its reflection when you put the on the whole with windows on an island so bad. Yet as -- them. -- lets do them I actually originally habits and plant is but then -- -- in that the units of dubious scientific. -- -- have been excellent and they have. Im declassified. And classified about 8000. Pages almost 9000 pages of previously classified reports the document citing. Of US clothes. By the military and members of the public dating back to in 1950 now this topic -- here in drugs from you know dont include commitments in this topic near and dear to my heart and -- idea from Canada. If your -- are totally thought the whole conservatives apnea partners in meeting with totally it was so weird airport -- -- -- -- camera guys start rolling it was like the idea. -- -- -- -- -- -- And at Canon we need to all lots of but its together and feed it and it certainly worthy of them via -- show. Which to the public at light movie like a hummingbird and it -- round and there were two other -- and hovering around like sentinel. It was all pocket -- come and -- -- well and pocket and well put up with -- -- have put -- about an anti -- in China but its pretty funny they talk about all of the different things that -- -- at one point. The royal air -- in 1967 with. Inundated with calls about what was -- the people at that it -- thick small -- you -- lying in a perfect line. And that they went -- and -- and appealed a bomb disposal unit went out and blew up one of them. Another was airlifted to a nearby village and then -- the army and depend -- ministry intelligent unit. Intelligence units were mobilized for what was considered a -- -- alien invasion. Until they later found out that it -- engineering students through contracted with an open Internet and military while. Though none of this other -- and -- to support reports the power. Or point two. Definitive proof of your post world aliens that these -- you know they only declassified that it. You they call me when you have that you know win in the presidents gonna press conference and -- -- now. Thats thats what -- -- -- and otherwise I dont really care. I do Ive been waiting for definitive proof for 37 years and Im tired of being from. -- union. Also apparently -- more blade runner. Is in our future. They -- there are -- the -- -- entertainment is in final discussions to secure film TV in franchise right and talking about. Following up any reasonably -- with sequels and prequel. Yeah really Scott noble than -- Be. So yeah. If theyre not sure yeah. Okay yeah look theres -- lot of you telling -- -- the good life for it now. What is that the ct I havent done it yet that its on that that what was going to be an alien prequel and turns appeals -- its I dont know all getting it yet super tasker. The Im not Im excited about this and even then -- -- the movie original movie came out. I think -- -- of the terminator. Whatever whatever whatever wasnt it it but yeah I think its gonna be a -- -- -- yes salvation. It was awful -- is there is awful in thatll be -- that it. Its fine there is okay who is -- -- -- -- got to be involved in this is not not good in the movie itself when -- we came out with a box office tank. It was what if the chemical -- the -- thirty years I think any adding new ones if they have the right. -- and at least now when prop would be more like re union heres theres been a lot of Philip K. Dick -- Then so now if it there doesnt seem to be a lot of excitement about this. The -- that -- ever appeared skeptical you know its things like it was a moment. But -- -- had your moment -- I yes. It led to move move on to your calls and email and. -- -- First up we get it Leo at call back from remember a single writers silver lining called a guy called that they -- -- he attempted to -- good news. And were like you just leave your wife to go through the single -- mining giants are well turns adjacent. Mary director. A touch screens -- just a quick. One is a cult at each show and now suggests that writers -- -- -- -- Well I -- art like the back story out in a player or now pay a marble and abetting a first thing -- -- -- single -- -- -- -- -- -- -- There and keep it like saying to each other pictures from that -- writer -- -- -- Are -- next up at the problem. With gesture locked security. Those consumers extolling virtues of -- -- pattern unlock. -- genes are some -- music. But I dont want any like registry -- into the smudge marks on the screen. My pattern was clearly visible to anyone who wanted hold up but -- the light. Arent answered that crisscross pattern this kind -- Your ability is the same dot. More than one at least not on on might be stroll inventory and Im wondering what has good tips for security measures on the pattern of bank. -- it microfiber. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yeah Ill be one of the -- afterward that he rubbed the agrees on -- oh yeah exactly. As -- -- that -- -- really that the maker assured. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- A lot of people have emailed us over the week that little -- you can view is note flake. All you acted you to back at your Gmail is just pop into an email client once every couple weeks and into outlook email -- keep it which -- theyre all dying from high asked for a button. And then they gave me will just how hard is it can pop it into your thunder bird -- you know just how -- couple weeks to download.com. Web mail webmail. Anyway. For had a really thank you for -- suggests that leverage and I appreciate Catholic group that is one way to do it in popularity again many innt and now it but it wont -- -- -- immediately and to plan. However frank actually called -- what I with a -- easier way back in -- time. -- to train yard nostril are you or talk though -- -- popular part of my genial and act out every public and -- I got a Gmail sculptor. Actors turned up into every -- True or Yahoo! mail and -- -- Under I have. You twit or church and it re open in particular. -- logo -- -- That you. And his treatment ever I actually -- a friend who does that because he has like nine email addresses known -- never remember which one is due to beat them all into her Gmail. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Alec and never really thought about using an up using it for backup so they would take and then. If that that the filter -- one time. I have no reason have a Hotmail account. He doesnt -- -- and and I like that -- and if you do want to do that back up and you can always use IMAP. Did it the year meat in your email into -- -- and that means youll -- think all ways but it doesnt necessarily work in the global back at -- Humana and delete and I understand the reason -- -- -- -- -- a lot more work thats all you do via or of course back up by. Of the tyrant I think back -- -- really. Thats about it lets move on to the email and can -- a couple of these here. He copied from Ghana rode into today Brent on your job. About -- decay heat loss ever loving mind and I thought about it snap on case I dont like them. Hes got to know you love iPad youd never gonna have to point out that mammoth five year old black -- magnet at the back which allows posters and cases to affected device behavior he automatically -- and -- profile data out specific apps behave when that might indicate. Like email -- two times Twitter -- and Spain BT upstream and it old school. As Apple had no idea that I have a Blackberry and I use the load that the ct that -- to holster and automatically would lock via. Those you know when I saw -- yesterday I didnt happily BT -- -- all I -- -- -- ripped out about it. Thank you black hood -- your Blackberry case turn into a tropical thatll stand yeah. Im gonna be and. -- actually. Well actually Andrew on that it made Gmail back and -- that humans like to know that Google staff -- but the -- site dubbed of that dot data liberation dot org. Which has the express purpose helping users access their data and Google products. The data liberation front is an engineering team at Google and their mission statement that users should be able to control the data they store. In any of Googles products are teams goal to make it easier to move data in and out. That heartened that the ads arent you get out of an had a Gmail I mean lets hear what you know pop -- that doesnt help you get your own act now cancers in them. Maybe or maybe Google Munich -- good idea Google employees and then well then hit the ct that Google employees that they glories and they note that they havent an informant and the weird. I and -- Eduardo forwarded that email that he got from our good friends over at break up at a fire. -- that FaceBook app that lets you get an email and coming year curious about the relationship status -- how many people are using them. Well that one point three million people signed up for it and entries but will via -- -- keeper you -- -- Im not an available online all who really get -- ce get red I dont know whats. And were totally talking you could use it not that deeply interested -- but the people who engineered like Kerio and Im. But lets open your key advantage that a bad. And apparently. If according to break -- fire has decided to reinstate -- higher. Gay and theyve sent that email to all the one point three million people who -- at the unit and that it back. The -- out and it now -- well there is a reason for getting rid of it -- -- -- -- -- people like to write anything honestly think the money yet Lebanon out of spam. -- I think it with a monthly kind of an accident. Anyway. That is our show for it today that of a good show -- -- of meaty topics there -- I kind of forgot about you know my. Wouldnt be viewed here we dont have to -- that. About how this show has changed some minds. But they never put an entry in -- -- -- If you have feedback on the show or you just want to click the link to the story that we talked about they please visit our blog VOL dot cnet.com where youll also went on back episodes of the show. And links to useful things like -- Wiki. What ended it on thick -- -- -- our. What he got that phone number phone number and you think so they earlier this placement and buzz at cnet.com or -- -- or it. Everything from. If I want to.
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